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		<title>Comment on Addressing depression, pt. 2 by Jeff Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://www.dougmurren.com/2006/12/12/addressing-depression-pt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-162265</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 05:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leaders fear the stigma of being treated for depression.  So, they don&#039;t go for treatment.  If there is ever a training program for a church&#039;s board or elders - it should sensitize them to what a depressed leader looks like.

Depression is a nasty downward spiral.  If an elder or trusted confidant of a leader could intervene and essentially throw a life-ring by talking about it, the leader can get out of the down draft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leaders fear the stigma of being treated for depression.  So, they don&#8217;t go for treatment.  If there is ever a training program for a church&#8217;s board or elders &#8211; it should sensitize them to what a depressed leader looks like.</p>
<p>Depression is a nasty downward spiral.  If an elder or trusted confidant of a leader could intervene and essentially throw a life-ring by talking about it, the leader can get out of the down draft.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Things that stick with you&#8230; by Doug Raymur</title>
		<link>http://www.dougmurren.com/2009/09/09/things-that-stick-with-you/comment-page-1/#comment-162259</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Raymur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 02:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember we had to learn &quot;Sgt. Pepper&#039;s Lonely Hearts Club Band&quot; immediately!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember we had to learn &#8220;Sgt. Pepper&#8217;s Lonely Hearts Club Band&#8221; immediately!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Texting by Doug Raymur</title>
		<link>http://www.dougmurren.com/2009/02/19/texting/comment-page-1/#comment-162258</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Raymur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 02:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, you ARE cool!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, you ARE cool!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on On postmodern communication by Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.dougmurren.com/on-postmodern-communication/comment-page-1/#comment-161177</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 19:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m kind of a fan of post-modern philosophy, it just makes sense to me. I couldn&#039;t agree more that words are packed with meaning on a personal level for every human out there, whether or not they understand or admit to it. &quot;Church&quot; is a great example. Somebody hears it and immediately drums up memories of flannelgraph bible stories or idiot Jesus-people who tried to cram religion down their throat (the two easiest stereotypes, right?) I think the same holds true of Jesus. Some of us picture a long-haired guy and don&#039;t know a ton about him, others immediately picture the crucified Christ and those of us who have an established relationship with him get all warm and fuzzy and think of some experience we&#039;ve had with him. Regardless, I think the warning about using His name for effect comes in with the commandment of Exodus 20... Because using that name simply for the sake of emotional or intellectual evocation just makes it common, kills the meaning and really just makes it vulgar ( the dictionary definition of such). Either way, great thoughts!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kind of a fan of post-modern philosophy, it just makes sense to me. I couldn&#8217;t agree more that words are packed with meaning on a personal level for every human out there, whether or not they understand or admit to it. &#8220;Church&#8221; is a great example. Somebody hears it and immediately drums up memories of flannelgraph bible stories or idiot Jesus-people who tried to cram religion down their throat (the two easiest stereotypes, right?) I think the same holds true of Jesus. Some of us picture a long-haired guy and don&#8217;t know a ton about him, others immediately picture the crucified Christ and those of us who have an established relationship with him get all warm and fuzzy and think of some experience we&#8217;ve had with him. Regardless, I think the warning about using His name for effect comes in with the commandment of Exodus 20&#8230; Because using that name simply for the sake of emotional or intellectual evocation just makes it common, kills the meaning and really just makes it vulgar ( the dictionary definition of such). Either way, great thoughts!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Granddad by Diana Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://www.dougmurren.com/2010/09/20/granddad/comment-page-1/#comment-154245</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a wonderful story and experience!  Thank you for sharing...There is a special place in my heart for my grandparents.  I also led my Grandaddy to the Lord...Thank God, I look forward to seeing them all when I get to the other side!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a wonderful story and experience!  Thank you for sharing&#8230;There is a special place in my heart for my grandparents.  I also led my Grandaddy to the Lord&#8230;Thank God, I look forward to seeing them all when I get to the other side!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts by Wayne Back</title>
		<link>http://www.dougmurren.com/2010/06/22/thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-150610</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Doug

Wayne Back here from CCC in Australia. Thought I&#039;d see what you are doing - always enjoy your thoughts. I have left the church staff and pursuing business and business ministry in a less structured sense - my businesses are wwww.mtaustralia.com and www.odi.net.au. I would love to send you my new book &quot;Building spiritual enterprises - bringing the kingdom of heaven through business&quot; - preview at www.odi.ne.au/spirit. Is your address 2516 E. Satterfield St. &#124; Meridian, ID 83646</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doug</p>
<p>Wayne Back here from CCC in Australia. Thought I&#8217;d see what you are doing &#8211; always enjoy your thoughts. I have left the church staff and pursuing business and business ministry in a less structured sense &#8211; my businesses are wwww.mtaustralia.com and <a href="http://www.odi.net.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.odi.net.au</a>. I would love to send you my new book &#8220;Building spiritual enterprises &#8211; bringing the kingdom of heaven through business&#8221; &#8211; preview at <a href="http://www.odi.ne.au/spirit" rel="nofollow">http://www.odi.ne.au/spirit</a>. Is your address 2516 E. Satterfield St. | Meridian, ID 83646</p>
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		<title>Comment on To Tweet or Not to Tweet by Jim Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.dougmurren.com/2010/04/17/to-tweet-or-not-to-tweet/comment-page-1/#comment-144830</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke a few weeks ago on the sin of &quot;selfish ambition&quot; mentioned in Galatians 5. I found this quote by Len Sweet in Soul Tsunami:

&quot;Attention is the most precious commodity of the future.&quot;

Talk about prophetic. Twitter, FaceBook, My Space, eHarmony, ad nauseum. It&#039;s all the story (and promotion) of the &quot;me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke a few weeks ago on the sin of &#8220;selfish ambition&#8221; mentioned in Galatians 5. I found this quote by Len Sweet in Soul Tsunami:</p>
<p>&#8220;Attention is the most precious commodity of the future.&#8221;</p>
<p>Talk about prophetic. Twitter, FaceBook, My Space, eHarmony, ad nauseum. It&#8217;s all the story (and promotion) of the &#8220;me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Religious or Spiritual? by Margot Cioccio</title>
		<link>http://www.dougmurren.com/2010/03/20/religious-or-spiritual/comment-page-1/#comment-141871</link>
		<dc:creator>Margot Cioccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Doug, 
Nice to see your web presence. It looks really great. I&#039;ve enjoyed reading your posts.  

You would remember me as Margot Ferlito. Its been a while but I worked with you and Gary on a church plant in Seattle. My ex, Ron and I and our little guy Niah would drive up from Yelm for Sundays and stay for the radio show. It has to have been at least 10 years ago because Niah is now 12. Time sure flies and takes a lot of un expected turns. 

Anyway I have mentioned your consulting work to my pastor, Rob Bryceson. He came to this church about 2 years ago. I have been with the church not quite a year. It is an over 100 year old Covenant Church in down town Spokane. I am part of the church management team. The cool thing we have been doing is a weekly feeding and building relationships with 100-150 homeless and very low income folks in our neighborhood. We opened our doors as a warming center during the cold winter months and have partnered with Gonzaga students who come in on Thursdays and do another meal. 

You are one of the best out of the box thinkers I know of and I guess I am wondering what it would take for us to have a phone conference with you. 

I&#039;m not sure we can save the church we have about 60 people attending about 30 are members and about 15 of us are working our tails off.  
I would like to see us transition to some kind of mission or outreach ministry to the homeless. 
We get very mixed messages from the denomination- on one hand they seem interested in the social justice ministry that we are doing and on the other hand it often feels like they are just waiting for us to die so they can sell off any assets. 

Anyway thought I would send you a note to say hi and to find out what it takes to consult with you.


My contact info is 
Margot Cioccio 509-235-2716
princessmargot@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doug,<br />
Nice to see your web presence. It looks really great. I&#8217;ve enjoyed reading your posts.  </p>
<p>You would remember me as Margot Ferlito. Its been a while but I worked with you and Gary on a church plant in Seattle. My ex, Ron and I and our little guy Niah would drive up from Yelm for Sundays and stay for the radio show. It has to have been at least 10 years ago because Niah is now 12. Time sure flies and takes a lot of un expected turns. </p>
<p>Anyway I have mentioned your consulting work to my pastor, Rob Bryceson. He came to this church about 2 years ago. I have been with the church not quite a year. It is an over 100 year old Covenant Church in down town Spokane. I am part of the church management team. The cool thing we have been doing is a weekly feeding and building relationships with 100-150 homeless and very low income folks in our neighborhood. We opened our doors as a warming center during the cold winter months and have partnered with Gonzaga students who come in on Thursdays and do another meal. </p>
<p>You are one of the best out of the box thinkers I know of and I guess I am wondering what it would take for us to have a phone conference with you. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure we can save the church we have about 60 people attending about 30 are members and about 15 of us are working our tails off.<br />
I would like to see us transition to some kind of mission or outreach ministry to the homeless.<br />
We get very mixed messages from the denomination- on one hand they seem interested in the social justice ministry that we are doing and on the other hand it often feels like they are just waiting for us to die so they can sell off any assets. </p>
<p>Anyway thought I would send you a note to say hi and to find out what it takes to consult with you.</p>
<p>My contact info is<br />
Margot Cioccio 509-235-2716<br />
<a href="mailto:princessmargot@hotmail.com">princessmargot@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Signs of Depression&#8230; by Bennie Kinnamon</title>
		<link>http://www.dougmurren.com/2007/10/01/signs-of-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-141629</link>
		<dc:creator>Bennie Kinnamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, i really know how its to have a problem like this. I&#039;ve struggling from this like a few months with the usual ups and downs so i really know to have a illness like this. At some forum i noticed some people were truly satisfied about a pill they purchased of the internet and i also ordered it when i found those pills at - herbalhealingstore dot com -. So you see, these herbals do work, you only have to find the good ones!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, i really know how its to have a problem like this. I&#8217;ve struggling from this like a few months with the usual ups and downs so i really know to have a illness like this. At some forum i noticed some people were truly satisfied about a pill they purchased of the internet and i also ordered it when i found those pills at &#8211; herbalhealingstore dot com -. So you see, these herbals do work, you only have to find the good ones!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Batteries by Encinitas Rehab</title>
		<link>http://www.dougmurren.com/2009/02/06/batteries/comment-page-1/#comment-138920</link>
		<dc:creator>Encinitas Rehab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job taking the time to create that, it helped us out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job taking the time to create that, it helped us out</p>
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